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Tuesday night at close to 11 o’clock the
Wake Forest Planning Board voted to
delay a recommendation about the Holding
Village project until its meeting May 1.
It was a six to four vote
with Steve Stoller, Alphonza Merritt,
Michael Martin, Ward Marotti, Peter
Thibodeau and Chris Kaeberlein voting to
table and chairman Bob Hill, Kim Parker,
Sarah Bridges and Tom Cornett voting no.
It had been the same lineup minutes
earlier that defeated Bridges’ motion to
approve the traditional neighborhood
development.
During the public hearing,
the Rev. Enoch Holloway, pastor of the
Friendship Chapel Baptist Church for 25
years, said the members of the
140-year-old “are probably the oldest
neighbors the Holdings have.” He praised
the Holding family, which operated a
dairy farm on the land intended for
Holding Village, and said the church
endorses it “a hundred and ten percent.”
“Why would it be good for
Friendship Chapel?” Marotti asked.
Although it may be regarded
as a black congregation, Holloway said
“the church is not black and we are
convinced it’s going to be a mixed
neighborhood.”
Jonnie Anderson, who owns a
downtown business, said she favors the
plan because it will benefit downtown.
“Personally, this is the way
neighborhoods ought to be developed.”
Another neighbor, the Air
Liquide US gas plant, is concerned
people who buy the single-family homes
in the southern part of the development
near Forestville Road will object to the
noise from the air-compression plant.
(No one spoke about the noise from the
freight trains on the CSX rail line.)
Clyde Holt, an attorney with
the Raleigh firm of Smith Moore, said
the compressors, which work around the
clock and around the calendar, can be
heard on the lots of nearby homes that
were there before the plant was built in
1983. Holt said he stood in one yard: “I
would not want to live there.”
Also, Holt said, the master
plan shows an exit from Holding Village
onto Forestville Road directly across
from the entrance to the Air Liquide
plant. Large trucks carrying liquid
oxygen, nitrogen and argon, between 15
and 25 a day, go to and from the plant.
All traffic would have to head south to
Rogers Road because the Forestville Road
railroad crossing was closed at the time
the Rogers Road crossing was opened.
Planning Director Chip
Russell said the separation between the
plant and the homes across the
intervening road and railroad line is
almost double the required.
The planning board members
seemed ready to agree to a condition
that potential homeowners must be
informed of the plant.
Three nearby homeowners
spoke briefly. Cheryl Colella Gehrke and
another neighbor had concerns about the
speed on the already-built section of
Franklin Street that serves their
developments.
Hill began the discussion
about the project by saying there are a
lot of issues, “a lot of them technical
in nature.” These are handled by the
local, state and federal agencies who
oversee the various development aspects.
Thibodeau then said, “I
think there’s a lot a ground to cover”
and asked how long the meeting could be.
He said he wanted to go through some
“substantive technical issues.”
Martin said he had noticed
in the regulating code that restaurants
would be permitted in the central
district, which has zero setbacks from
the sidewalks. “Where are they going to
put a thousand-gallon grease trap? In
the middle of the road?”
“If the City of Raleigh says
you are going to have to have a grease
trap, there are other requirements that
are going to weigh into what your
setback is.”
“I’m not qualified to
micro-manage this,” Hill said. “The
staff has worked hard on this.”
“How can we be comfortable
with this new plan?” Marotti asked.
“There are various agencies
in place that regulate these things,”
Hill said. “It comes down to a matter of
confidence. I’m perfectly comfortable
with them (the planning staff) managing
this.”
Russell had given the
planning board members the plans and the
staff report without adding his comments
or any conditions he would recommend. He
said he needed a little more time to
formalize his recommendations. He has
worked closely with the developers, he
said, providing form while they gave
content.
Although he appreciated the
confidence expressed by Hill and
Bridges, Russell said, it is always good
to look at something with another set of
eyes. Also, he said, he had seen some
typos and word choices in the regulating
code he would like to change.
Thibodeau said he wanted to
provide support for the staff and make
sure the project is in the best
interests of the town.
“I’m concerned,” he said,
about the number of places where changes
or modifications could be approved by
Russell. Thibodeau said he thought most
of those should return to the planning
board.
Thibodeau, a hydrologist,
said he had worked with developers. If
they can get a 20 percent change for
their plans, they think “every inch I
develop means more dollars in my
pocket.”
It is different for
traditional neighborhoods which specify
building close to the street or sidewalk
or at it, Russell said. “Here they would
want to increase the setbacks.”
Undeterred, Thibodeau said
more building “means more impervious
area, more run-off into streams and
ponds. Part of their plan is to manage
the pond for irrigation. I haven’t seen
anything in here that the project is
going to protect that creek or that
pond.” Thibodeau also said he wants the
development, if it is approved, to be
successful.
“You probably won’t find
that (water management) in the
regulating code,” Russell said, adding
it is not the usual situation. It is the
first time a development said it would
use a pond for irrigation.
Also, Russell said, “If
there’s some significant change to the
master plan, it comes back to you.”
At least twice Thibodeau
told the developers, Roger Perry of East
West Partners in Chapel Hill and Scott
Murray, who operates his land planning
firm from Boydton, Va., that he would
like to work with them on water
management.
Thibodeau also said the
planning board did not have a final
grading plan and “we haven’t talked
about the traffic impact analysis. I’d
like to have that explained to me.”
“The whole idea is,” Hill
said, “that when you have documents like
the traffic study (included in planning
board members’ packets) and have some
questions, you need to get in touch with
the appropriate people at the town.”
“There is a lot to review in
a short time,” Thibodeau said. “This is
a landmark project for the town. I just
want to see the details. I’m not being
mean.”
Thibodeau then questioned
several of the traffic counts from the
traffic study.
Thibodeau’s final questions
were about the proposed densities.
“Why?” he asked. If there are larger
lots they would decrease the burden on
the town and the schools. He said some
lots are as small as 5,000 square feet,
which translates into the town’s zoning
of R-5. Much of Heritage and other
developments are zoned R-5 because of
the flexibility in setbacks in that
zoning classification.
One of the people in the
hearing room until the end Tuesday night
was T. Barker Dameron who, with his
brother, Chris, owns the tract to the
east of the Holding Village site. Some
of that land is being developed
residentially by Andy Ammons as Heritage
North. The Damerons apparently plan to
present their development plans soon. |